Add Defenders for Friendly Havens
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Vit Barta
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Danforth Update - v 1.0.58746 - 11/06/2020
Haven Defense Resident Soldiers
When defending a Haven, players will now find resident soldiers fighting with the attacking forces. If a player unit comes close to a defending unit, the player will gain control of that unit for the rest of the mission.
Vit Barta
in progress
Sunny Kwan
Non-panicked civilians should have the ability to run away and find better cover, and once they spot reinforcements, they should move in the direction of rescue. It does not make sense to me that civilians just sit still in one place while getting attacked turn after turn until they die.
Vit Barta
This will not be included in the next patch. We are aiming to include it in the second bigger patch from now.
Mark Richards
Vit Barta: Finally! But not just yet.
Jen Daniel
It is the great idea. However remove will point loses for killed allied heaven defenders. Or at least minimalize lose of WP to 1 point otherwise this missions result in immidiately panicking squad.
M
MKI
Would be awesome!!!
Vit Barta
planned
Mark Richards
Near the end of the Disciples Campaign there are friendly AI fighters. I don't know why that's ok in that story mission and not other missions.
Michael Ganch
I would love to see this as something that evolves over time or based on military strength. For example a faction with a military power of 3 might just have 4 civs with pistols and 4 panicky ones you still need to rescue manually but one with 12 might have 6 fully armored guys with ARs and a heavy . 18+ will have a parked vehicle for you to use at no soldier cost to your drop but like the beta you have to run a guy over to it to take it over (or a tech with manual control ability can grab it at a distance)
Then you have research or shared research to upgrade civilians / defenders as well - maybe you have some special research where you spend 500 resource and 200 tech but when you research it all factions your 50% or better with get +2 military strength (+4 if they are with operational range of one of your bases) This way it shows a more symbiotic relation with the factions where they are getting something from you just as you are getting benefits from them .
Late game this also allows you to have to do less fights since your advancing the military strength that means more havens that can defend themselves.
This can also tie into Nest where each nest has a military strength it can send out that grows over time so you can look at nest and know how much of priority they are
Attila Szabó
Michael Ganch: The idea of making different military power giving different level of equipment is good, though I wouldn't count a military power level of 3 = 4 civilians with pistols etc. That is a power level of 0. Start with soldiers of 2 at least. But overall an interesting idea, and a good one.
Adding defenders to haven. IF this happens (hopefully) then boosting havens also with shared research etc will simply make PX obsolete. That is not a good option/way for the overall experience.
Florin Adrian
Michael Ganch: Upgrading defenders sounds a lot like Long War 2.
Matt Mercer
I agree this would be great, most points have already been laid out below but I would like to personally re-up that:
1) In order for this to remain balanced, enemy strength on haven defense missions would need to be increased
2) Enemy AI speed (or at least turn animation) would need to be sped up so that AI turns don't take forever
3) Your soldiers shouldn't lose WP (or should only lose 1 WP) when an allied soldier dies, since otherwise the AI getting itself into stupid situations could lead to the player being ineffective for most of the mission through no fault of their own
Michael Ganch
Matt Mercer: A system where enemy str is visible like haven military strength and grows over time would be great - knowing that the longer you leave an enemy base alone the more like it is to be able to take down havens - but also giving you options to help make havens stronger .
The speed issue is easier modder have already found a ton of flaws in the system and ways to speed up the game - im sure the real devs have seen all those solutions and more and will be testing / implementing them
and our guys might not lose any will from the allies dying at all but a small will lose of -1 would be fair
T
Torinus
Michael Ganch: Don't count/guess on anyone knowing stuff or seeing. Better you open another bug report here and list all those flaws you found so then you are sure they know about them.
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